Just a few quick remarks about ranked games. You can get to ranked Euchre games by clicking the Menu button (for Euchre). You will also see ranked tables in the "list of tables". You'll see 4 empty seats if the table is completely empty, otherwise you'll see an R for a registered player. If you want to sit opposite someone as their teammate, click the square that is one seat away from them (partners are given alternate seats in the list of tables).
The rules for ranked tables are:
- They are for registered players only.
- You must have completed at least 10 regular games before you can play a ranked one.
- You cannot start a table with bots, but if someone drops out, then bots can be invited.
- If you drop off the table by accident, you are given 3 minutes to return to the table before you are penalized with a loss. Note that the remaining players do not have to invite a bot, but are allowed to, to take your place.
- You are given an Elo rating upon completion. The Elo rating is computed the same in Euchre as described for Spades.
FYI - In the next week or two, an Elo ratings "decay" will be introduced. If a player has not played in a ranked game for 2 weeks, their Elo rating will be decremented. This will continue each week that the player is not active in ranked games, until the rating reaches 1500 again. All that's needed to keep the decay from occurring is to participate in a ranked game. [Edit June 26 2016: Instead of ratings decaying, the ratings just don't show up on the leaderboards when players do not participate for 2 weeks.]
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| Euchre ranked games available for registered players |
12 comments:
loot
I have no idea what that means lol
Am I doing something wrong when I attempt to reply? I write my comments, select reply as anonymous, but when I select preview, the entire comment disappears. I don't have an opportunity to edit it.
I'm not sure if you're doing something wrong... I just tried it as described, using Firefox browser. Seems to be working okay. When I clicked Preview, I did see a preview of the comment, and I was able to click the Publish button. What browser are you using? - Marya
Rather than a "ratings decay", it would be more elegant and less problematic, in my opinion, to simply remove the names of 'inactive' players from the leaderboard (until they play again). Why be punitive?
- drdammit/godzilla
How much of a decrement?
Why decrement at all? Just hide the inactive players from the leaderboard - the actual culprit keeping folks sitting on their ratings. Players may also not be able to play every 2 weeks - illness, travel, visitors, or simply don't want to play for a while.
Decreasing the ratings every 1-2 weeks will devalue the ELO. The player's skills do not decrease just by inactivity for a few weeks or even months. It is not only punitive to players as mentioned by drdammit, but unfair to the opposition. The opposing player to someone whose rating was arbitrarily decreased in this way (say 1700 to 1500), will not have his new ELO reflect the defeat of or a loss to a superior player. He would not gain the ELO he should have gained in a win and will lose more ELO than he should have lost if defeated.
Please reconsider this.
MamaCass
Marya, I noticed your comment that in your experience, players are less likely to quit rated games. Since this is true, why continue to penalize the hearts quitter substantially more than the spades quitter? I would like to see the quitter taking the same single loss to the winner, as do the 3 losers. For not sticking it out however, he should be denied the tie to the other losers, making his ELO loss greater, but not excessively punitive.
(I would like for the tie between losers to be totally eliminated from your computation and have all take a single loss to the winner.)
In spades, a quitter takes a loss to the 2 opposing players as does his partner, should he go on to lose. The quitter has no additional penalty other than the 4 hours suspension. Unlike hearts, a spades quitter has more impact on the game since it leaves his partner at a disadvantage and who now most likely will have to pair up with a robot. I don't have a solution to this, but just wanted to get it out there for you or your blog readers to consider.
While I have the floor, I would like to see the ELO of partnerships averaged instead of computed separately. Their strengths and weaknesses are combined into a team creating essentially 1 complete player against the opposing player. Their ELO loss or win would be equalized.
Thanks, MamaCass
You're doing an amazing job there Marya. Keep up the good work, It's much appreciated.
Euchiddinme
thanks!
i like the changes u've made 2 euchre....been playing more on my phone app(euchre 3d) but since i've played more here...thx 4 double the euchre fun : )
hi, im sorry i'm not trying to become a problem, but if there is anyway that you can inform a certain squirrel, (i & at least my p at the time) feel that its poor etiquette to explain the "next" strategy while playing, and in this case "a ranked game" maybe not so much an unranked game, but still.. if you don't agree, i'm sorry for bothering u,but if u do, i'd appreciate anything u could do. this game became very awkward while this was taking place. thought u would like to know either way anyhow, thanks for your time : )
hi, im sorry i'm not trying to become a problem, but if there is anyway that you can inform a certain squirrel, (i & at least my p at the time) feel that its poor etiquette to explain the "next" strategy while playing, and in this case "a ranked game" maybe not so much an unranked game, but still.. if you don't agree, i'm sorry for bothering u,but if u do, i'd appreciate anything u could do. this game became very awkward while this was taking place. thought u would like to know either way anyhow, thanks for your time : )
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